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Cine este Henry Kissinger<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Henry Kissinger s-a n\u0103scut \u00een Furth, Germania, la 27 mai 1923, iar la cincisprezece ani a emigrat cu familia sa, de origine israelit\u0103, \u00een SUA, unde a devenit unul dintre cei mai influen\u021bi b\u0103rba\u021bi americani. \u0218i-a c\u00e2\u0219tigat f\u0103r\u0103 nici un ajutor una dintre cele mai proaste reputa\u021bii din istoria actual\u0103, din cauza faptului c\u0103 a participat la conspira\u021bii politice care urm\u0103reau \u00eenl\u0103turarea regimurilor socialiste din America Latin\u0103 \u0219i promovarea r\u0103zboaielor cu scopuri imperialiste \u0219i economice. \u00cen anii 1950, Rockefeller i-a oferit cheia de acces \u00een cercul sus-pu\u0219ilor \u0219i, nu mult dup\u0103 aceea, a intrat la Pentagon. A lucrat cu pre\u0219edin\u021bii John F. Kennedy, Richard Nixon, Henry Ford, Jimmy Carter \u0219i George Walker Bush, aduc\u00e2nd servicii oligarhiei financiare, \u00een special lui David Rockefeller, care l-a lansat \u0219i tutelat, dar nu s-a uitat nici pe sine \u0219i a devenit unul dintre func\u021bionarii cei mai boga\u021bi din America. Antisemi\u021bii \u00eel acuz\u0103 c\u0103 este evreul care i-a garantat Israelului ob\u021binerea constant\u0103 a unor imense subven\u021bii \u0219i a celor mai bune arme. Evreii ortodoc\u0219i l-au dat afar\u0103 din sinagog\u0103, acuz\u00e2ndu-l de tr\u0103dare c\u0103ci consider\u0103 c\u0103, \u00een r\u0103zboiul purtat de s\u0103rb\u0103toarea Yom Kippur (una  dintre cele mai mari s\u0103rb\u0103tori ale religiei iudaice; are loc la zece zile dup\u0103 Anul Nou evreiesc, \u00eentre septembrie \u0219i octombrie, fiind ziua marii c\u0103in\u021be ori a marii iert\u0103ri pentru gre\u0219elile comise), a am\u00e2nat inten\u021bionat ajutorul militar american, pentru ca Israelul \u201es\u0103 fac\u0103 o baie de s\u00e2nge\u201d \u0219i astfel s\u0103 accepte un acord de pace.<\/h4>\n

\u00cen 1973, a primit premiul Nobel pentru pace, al\u0103turi de partenerul s\u0103u de negocieri, vietnamezul Le Duc Tho, pentru acordurile semnate \u00een vederea \u00eencet\u0103rii r\u0103zboiului; dar, de\u0219i acesta din urm\u0103 a refuzat premiul, consider\u00e2nd c\u0103 nu-\u0219i \u00eencheiaser\u0103 misiunea, el l-a acceptat.<\/h4>\n

Tot \u00een acel an, a participat activ la loviturile de stat din Chile \u0219i Uruguay. \u00cen Chile este acuzat c\u0103, pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 organizarea a\u0219a-numitei opera\u021biuni Condor, a elaborat \u0219i un plan de eliminare sistematic\u0103 a opozan\u021bilor, cu scopul de a \u201ecombate comunismul\u201d \u00een America Latin\u0103. \u00cen timpul convorbirilor avute cu Augusto Pinochet la Santiago de Chile, \u00een ziua de 8 iunie 1976, Henry Kissinger i-a spus generalului: \u201e\u00cen SUA, simpatiz\u0103m cu ceea ce \u00eencerca\u021bi s\u0103 face\u021bi aici. Cred c\u0103 guvernul anterior se \u00eendrepta spre comunism. V\u0103 dorim toate cele bune\u201d. Mai r\u0103u este c\u0103 Henry Kissinger \u0219tia ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 \u00een Chile, fiindc\u0103 tocmai \u00eei trimisese un raport pre\u0219edintelui Ford, inform\u00e2ndu-l despre practicarea torturii \u00een acea \u021bar\u0103, de parc\u0103 aceasta ar fi fost ceva natural. A ad\u0103ugat \u00een raport \u0219i c\u0103 noua putere solu\u021biona chestiunea expropierii companiilor americane: \u201eNe intereseaz\u0103 neap\u0103rat supravie\u021buirea Juntei, c\u0103reia trebuie s\u0103-i asigur\u0103m sprijinul nostru discret, dar ferm\u201d, a ad\u0103ugat \u00een documentul s\u0103u.<\/h4>\n

Cu ocazia loviturii de stat din Argentina, la 24 martie 1976, a \u00eencurajat \u0219i sprijinit Junta militar\u0103 s\u0103 ia puterea. Este cunoscut\u0103 implicarea sa direct\u0103 \u00een bombardamentele secrete din Laos \u0219i Cambodgia, ordonate \u00een 1969 f\u0103r\u0103 permisiunea Congresului, bombardamente care au provocat masacrarea nelimitat\u0103 a civililor. Kissinger a sprijinit \u0219i regimul indonezian al generalului Suharto, acuzat de genocidul popula\u021biei din Timorul Oriental.<\/h4>\n

Exist\u0103 numeroase ini\u021biative care urm\u0103resc trimiterea lui Kissinger \u00een judecat\u0103 interna\u021bional\u0103, ca \u0219i retragerea premiului Nobel primit. Unii magistra\u021bi au \u00eencercat f\u0103r\u0103 succes s\u0103-l aduc\u0103 pe banca acuz\u0103rii, pentru numeroase crime \u00eempotriva umanit\u0103\u021bii. Cu ocazia acuz\u0103rii lui Pinochet de c\u0103tre judec\u0103torul spaniol Baltasar Garzon, The New York Times<\/em> a semnalat c\u0103 nu-i departe nici ziua c\u00e2nd personaje abjecte, precum Henry Kissinger, vor trebui s\u0103 dea socoteal\u0103 \u00een tribunale interna\u021bionale pentru faptele lor. Iar Kissinger a r\u0103spuns: \u201eNu cred c\u0103 persoanele binecunoscute sunt \u00een primejdie. Eu, cel pu\u021bin, nu-mi fac griji\u201d. Jurnalistul Christopher Hitchens, autorul c\u0103r\u021bii de succes Judecarea lui Hendry Kissinger<\/em> (The trial of Henry Kissinger) sus\u021bine c\u0103, la \u0219aptezeci \u0219i opt de ani, Kissinger se teme \u0219i \u00ee\u0219i consult\u0103 avoca\u021bii \u00eenainte de a \u00eentreprinde orice c\u0103l\u0103torie \u00een str\u0103in\u0103tate.<\/h4>\n

\u00cen decembrie 1974, iritat de acuza\u021biile pe care i le aduceau ap\u0103r\u0103torii drepturilor omului, Kissinger le-a spus colaboratorilor lui: \u201eAstea nu-s dec\u00e2t prostii sentimentale. Aici facem politic\u0103 extern\u0103, nu regenerare moral\u0103\u201d. Cu acest soi de r\u0103spunsuri, nu mai e ciudat c\u0103 \u00eens\u0103\u0219i Catedra UNESCO pentru problemele p\u0103cii din Universitatea Bradford, \u00een Marea Britanie, a cerut Funda\u021biei Nobel s\u0103-i retrag\u0103 premiul lui Henry Kissinger.<\/h4>\n

Profesorul universitar emerit al \u0218colii Wharton (Universitatea din Pennsylvania), Edward Herman, semnaleaz\u0103: \u201eRolul jucat de el \u00een genocidurile din Cambodgia, Chile \u0219i Timorul Oriental face din Kissinger un criminal de r\u0103zboi de prim\u0103 clas\u0103, cel pu\u021bin de categoria ministrului de externe a lui Hitler, Joachim von Ribbentrop, sp\u00e2nzurat \u00een 1946. Dar Kissinger se bucur\u0103 de impunitatea liderilor \u0219i agen\u021bilor puterii dominante\u201d.<\/h4>\n

(Cristina Martin – Clubul Bilderberg. Stapanii Lumii 2007)<\/h4>\n

Convobri secrete<\/strong><\/h3>\n

C\u00e2nd a donat arhivelor guvernamentale transcrierile convorbirilor sale telefonice secrete, fostul secretar de stat american Henry Kissinger nu s-a g\u00e2ndit c\u0103 acestea i-ar putea afecta imaginea pe care i-o va p\u0103stra istoria, a\u0219a cum s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat \u00een cazul lui Richard Nixon. Spre deosebire \u00eens\u0103 de fostul pre\u0219edinte, care \u00ee\u0219i instalase un sistem automat de \u00eenregistrare integral\u0103 a coversa\u021biilor, Kissinger folosea secretare care ascultau, luau noti\u021be stenografice \u0219i b\u0103teau apoi textul la ma\u0219in\u0103. Rezultatul este acela\u0219i: o uria\u0219\u0103 cantitate de materiale, \u00een mod cert de uz secret. Kissinger a folosit uneori \u0219i benzi audio pe care le-a distrus. Nu \u00eens\u0103 \u0219i transcrierea lor. \u00cenaltul oficial american \u0219i-a \u00eenso\u021bit dona\u021bia de condi\u021bia ca textele s\u0103 nu fie declasificate at\u00e2ta vreme c\u00e2t este \u00een via\u021b\u0103. Cercet\u0103torii au insistat totu\u0219i, publicul ob\u021bin\u00e2nd acces, \u00een 2004, la \u00eentregul material, adic\u0103 la un total de aproximativ 20000 de pagini. Ele acoper\u0103 perioada dintre 1969 \u0219i 1974, c\u00e2nd Kissinger a fost consilierul lui Nixon pe probleme de securitate na\u021bional\u0103 \u0219i apoi ministrul s\u0103u de externe. Transcrierile dezv\u0103luie un om plin de inteligen\u021b\u0103, carism\u0103, umor, cu o deosebit\u0103 capacitate de a folosi aceste calit\u0103\u021bi pentru manipularea celor din jur; un b\u0103rbat cu mult temperament \u0219i foarte preocupat de imaginea sa public\u0103. James Warren, redactor-\u0219ef adjunct la Chicago Tribune, a selectat o parte din textele declasificate de Arhivele Na\u021bionale ale Statelor Unite, \u00eencredin\u021b\u0103ndu-le revistei \u201eThe Atlantic Monthly\u201d.<\/h4>\n

Da\u021bi o dezmin\u021bire!<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Henry Kissinger era m\u00e2hnit de apari\u021bia, \u00een \u201eWomen\u2019s Wear Daily\u201d, a unei relat\u0103ri semnate de Kandy Stroud, \u00een care autoarea insinua c\u0103 (pe atunci) consilierul pe probleme de securitate na\u021bional\u0103 invitase diver\u0219i oaspe\u021bi la un restaurant de lux din Washington, pl\u0103tind consuma\u021bia din banii contribuabililor. De\u0219i publica\u021bia nu avea un tiraj foarte mare, era totu\u0219i cea mai influent\u0103 dintre revistele de mod\u0103, iar autoarea articolului \u2013 unul dintre reporterii de prestigiu. A\u0219a se explic\u0103 de ce Kissinger, foarte agitat, s-a pl\u00e2ns imediat editorului.<\/em><\/h4>\n

Henry Kissinger \u0219i James Brady, 18 mai 1971<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

HK: V\u0103 sun \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu un text ap\u0103rut joia trecut\u0103…<\/h4>\n

JB: Cel despre cheltuieli prin diverse restaurante?<\/h4>\n

HK: \u00cel consider scandalos… Unu, n-am un cont pentru cheltuieli; doi, nu l-am \u00eenc\u0103rcat niciodat\u0103 pe pre\u0219edinte cu vreuna dintre mesele date; trei, afirma\u021biile sunt absurde… Cred c\u0103 e aproape o calomnie, dar nu fac din asta un caz legal, ci unul etic…<\/h4>\n

JB: A\u0219 fi bucuros s\u0103 primesc o declara\u021bie din partea dvs.<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu fac asta.<\/h4>\n

JB: Nu vre\u021bi s\u0103 scrie\u021bi o declara\u021bie de clarificare a lucrurilor?<\/h4>\n

HK: Cred c\u0103 dvs. \u00eemi datora\u021bi mie una.<\/h4>\n

JB: Personal, nu cunosc faptele.<\/h4>\n

HK: Crede\u021bi c\u0103 e cinstit s\u0103 sugerezi ceva f\u0103r\u0103 m\u0103car s\u0103 \u0219tii dac\u0103 am un cont pentru cheltuieli?<\/h4>\n

JB: Dar ne-am interesat \u0219i ni s-a spus c\u0103…<\/h4>\n

HK: Dar ea nu s-a interesat.<\/h4>\n

JB: Nu?<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu… \u0218i chiar dac\u0103 faptele ar fi adev\u0103rate, ceea ce e absurd, este treaba mea personal\u0103.<\/h4>\n

JB: Totu\u0219i problema intereseaz\u0103. Sunte\u021bi persoan\u0103 public\u0103.<\/h4>\n

HK: S\u0103 punem lucrurile la punct! V-a\u021bi dus la un \u0219ef de sal\u0103 care a vrut s\u0103 par\u0103 important. Deci nu cred c\u0103 eu<\/em> sunt cel care trebuie s\u0103 dea o declara\u021bie.<\/h4>\n

JB: Bine, nu cunosc faptele… Trebuie s\u0103 vorbesc cu Kandy. Apoi v\u0103 sun.<\/h4>\n

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\"James<\/a>
James Brady<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Henry Kissinger \u0219i Kandy Stroud, 18 mai 1971<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

HK: Kandy?<\/h4>\n

KS: Henry, c\u00e2nd m\u0103 invi\u021bi la cin\u0103?<\/h4>\n

HK: Vreau o rectificare.<\/h4>\n

KS: Ce vrei s\u0103 spui?<\/h4>\n

HK: O rectificare la ce ai scris pe 13 mai. Ideea c\u0103 a\u0219 \u00eenc\u0103rca guvernul cu pr\u00e2nzuri \u0219i cine este o calomnie.<\/h4>\n

KS: Era o specula\u021bie. Am spus \u201em\u0103 \u00eentreb dac\u0103\u201d.<\/h4>\n

HK: Dar dac\u0103 ai fi spus \u201em\u0103 \u00eentreb dac\u0103 \u0219i-a ucis mama\u201d?<\/h4>\n

KS: Am spus \u201em\u0103 \u00eentreb dac\u0103 pl\u0103te\u0219te dintr-un cont pentru cheltuieli\u201d.<\/h4>\n

HK: \u00cen plus, din 18 februarie am luat masa de cinci ori la Sans Souci… Iar tu spui c\u0103 am luat pr\u00e2nzul acolo de zece ori \u0219i cina \u00een mod frecvent.<\/h4>\n

KS: Voi publica bucuroas\u0103 ceea ce-mi spui.<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu trebuie s\u0103 m\u0103 citezi.<\/h4>\n

KS: Cum ai vrea s\u0103 apar\u0103?<\/h4>\n

HK: Pur \u0219i simplu s\u0103 spui c\u0103 te-ai interesat \u0219i ai aflat c\u0103 nu e adev\u0103rat.<\/h4>\n

KS: \u0218i cu declara\u021bia lui Paul (\u0219eful de sal\u0103) cum r\u0103m\u00e2ne?<\/h4>\n

HK: N-a spus adev\u0103rul.<\/h4>\n

KS: N-ai invitat niciodat\u0103 pe nimeni pe baza unui cont pentru cheltuieli?<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu, am pl\u0103tit din buzunarul propriu. Cu jobul \u0103sta o s\u0103 ajung falit… Faptul c\u0103 m\u0103n\u00e2nc la Sans Souci \u00eempreun\u0103 cu \u0219ase femei n-ar trebui s\u0103 fie treaba nim\u0103nui. Dar c\u0103 a\u0219 folosi banii guvernului are implica\u021bii destul de…<\/h4>\n

KS: O s\u0103 public ce-mi spui.<\/h4>\n

HK: Dar nu cit\u00e2ndu-m\u0103.<\/h4>\n

KS: Cum dovedim c\u0103 nu e adev\u0103rat?<\/h4>\n

HK: Po\u021bi s\u0103 spui c\u0103 ai verificat \u0219i ai aflat c\u0103 nu cheltuiesc banii guvernului pentru a lua masa la restaurante publice.<\/h4>\n

KS: Ai o cifr\u0103 total\u0103 a cheltuielilor?<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu \u021bi-a\u0219 spune-o \u021bie, dac\u0103 a\u0219 avea-o. E treaba mea c\u00e2t cheltuiesc pe m\u00e2ncare. Dar e ridicol s\u0103 spui c\u0103 pr\u00e2nzesc de opt sau de zece ori pe lun\u0103 la Sans Souci… Tu afirmi c\u0103 am fost de mai multe ori acolo cu o blondin\u0103 \u00eenalt\u0103.<\/h4>\n

KS: Era o brunet\u0103?<\/h4>\n

HK: Genul \u0103sta de b\u00e2rf\u0103 nu-\u021bi cer s\u0103-l corectezi. Dar banii guvernului… Pentru Dumnezeu, e o chestiune de onoare!<\/h4>\n

KS: Te-a\u0219 putea vedea c\u00e2ndva?<\/h4>\n

HK: \u00cent\u00e2i rectific\u0103 \u0219i apoi ne vedem.<\/h4>\n

Henry Kissinger \u0219i James Brady, 18 mai 1971<\/em><\/strong><\/h4>\n

JB: Am vorbit cu Kandy… Cred c\u0103 este corect din partea noastr\u0103 s\u0103 spunem: am constatat c\u0103 faptele prezentate au fost mult exagerate, iar cheltuielile f\u0103cute de dl. Kissinger sunt din banii proprii, nu din cei ai guvernului sau ai vreunei agen\u021bii guvernamentale.<\/h4>\n

HK: Dac\u0103 face\u021bi asta, sunt lini\u0219tit.<\/h4>\n

Un sfat util<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Pe 14 septembrie 1971, a ap\u0103rut \u00een pres\u0103 \u0219tirea despre o \u00eent\u00e2lnire desf\u0103\u0219urat\u0103 la Saigon \u00eentre generalul Creighton Abrams, \u0219eful armatei americane din Vietnamul de Sud, \u0219i senatorul George McGovern, care, un an mai t\u00e2rziu, va fi contracandidatul lui Richard Nixon \u00een alegerile preziden\u021biale. Senatorul le-a spus reporterilor c\u0103, potrivit lui Abrams, trupele americane se vor retrage din Vietnam dup\u0103 ce va fi semnat un tratat de pace. Nixon \u0219i Kissinger s-au \u00eenfuriat, condamn\u00e2nd indiscre\u021bia lui Abrams \u0219i scurgerile de informa\u021bii de la Pentagon. Dup\u0103 ce a vorbit la telefon cu pre\u0219edintele, care s-a pl\u00e2ns c\u0103 Abrams bea \u0219i vorbe\u0219te prea mult, Kissinger i-a contactat pe secretarul ap\u0103r\u0103rii, Melvin Laird, \u0219i pe amiralul Thomas Moorer, \u0219eful Statului Major Interarme.<\/em><\/h4>\n

Henry Kissinger \u0219i Melvin Laird, 14 septembrie 1971<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

HK: Mel, tocmai am vorbit cu pre\u0219edintele. Am\u00e2ndoi am citit povestea din \u201eStar\u201d. Nu \u0219tiu ce s\u0103 facem \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu Pentagonul.<\/h4>\n

ML: O treab\u0103 jenant\u0103!<\/h4>\n

HK: Sunt surse de la Pentagon.<\/h4>\n

ML: Ai citit ce-am spus la conferin\u021ba de pres\u0103 de acum o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103?<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu. Nu puteau s\u0103-\u0219i \u021bin\u0103 to\u021bi gura?<\/h4>\n

ML: Nu-i po\u021bi face pe reporteri s\u0103 tac\u0103.<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu m\u0103 refer la reporteri. Cine naiba e Abrams s\u0103 afirme c\u0103 nu vor r\u0103m\u00e2ne acolo for\u021be reziduale?<\/h4>\n

ML: McGovern a ie\u0219it de la \u00eent\u00e2lnirea cu Abrams \u0219i a spus c\u0103 programul de vietnamizare va duce probabil la o retragere total\u0103… Dar nimeni de la Pentagon n-a vorbit despre asta. Dac\u0103 te iei dup\u0103 McGovern…<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu dau doi bani pe el!<\/h4>\n

ML: Sunt treburi absolut jenante…<\/h4>\n

HK: Ac\u021bioneaz\u0103, pune-\u021bi oamenii la punct.<\/h4>\n

ML: Am f\u0103cut-o deja, dar c\u00e2nd vezi…<\/h4>\n

HK: Cred c\u0103 dac\u0103-i sperii…<\/h4>\n

ML: Nu-i po\u021bi speria pe oamenii \u0103\u0219tia.<\/h4>\n

HK: Ba cheam\u0103-\u021bi oamenii la ordine!<\/h4>\n

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\"Melvin<\/a>
Melvin Laird<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Henry Kissinger \u0219i Thomas Moorer, 14 septembrie 1971<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

HK: Am citit \u201eWashington Star… Pre\u0219edintele \u0219i cu mine suntem foc de sup\u0103rare… Surse din Pentagon s\u0103 spun\u0103 c\u0103 toate trupele vor fi retrase, comentariul acestui Abrams…<\/h4>\n

TM: Nu cred c-a spus el a\u0219a ceva.<\/h4>\n

HK: Nici un ofi\u021ber nu trebuie s\u0103 rosteasc\u0103 nici un blestemat de cuv\u00e2nt despre retragere!<\/h4>\n

TM: Corect.<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu trebuie s\u0103 spun\u0103 absolut nimic. <\/em>Pre\u0219edintele m-a sunat de trei ori, url\u00e2nd.<\/h4>\n

TM: Nu cred c-a spus el a\u0219a ceva.<\/h4>\n

HK: \u0218i altceva: spune-le celor din Saigon s\u0103-\u0219i \u021bin\u0103 gura! Nu numai lui Abrams, dar \u0219i b\u0103ie\u021bilor de la pres\u0103.<\/h4>\n

TM: Bine.<\/h4>\n

HK: Arde pe careva!<\/h4>\n

TM: OK.<\/h4>\n

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\"Thomas<\/a>
Thomas Moorer<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Pe cuv\u00e2ntul meu…<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Uneori, Kissinger putea fi destul de duplicitar. O dovad\u0103 o constituie convorbirile avute pe parcursul aceleia\u0219i zile pe tema apropiatelor alegeri preziden\u021biale. Interlocutori: Hugh Sidey, editorialist la revista \u201eTime\u201d, \u0219i H.R. Haldeman, \u0219eful de cabinet al lui Nixon.<\/em><\/h4>\n

Henry Kissinger \u0219i Hugh Sidey, 22 septembrie 1972<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

HS: Cum merge treaba?<\/h4>\n

HK: Bine, progres\u0103m.<\/h4>\n

HS: D\u0103-\u021bi spun ceva. Am f\u0103cut un sondaj pe care-l vom publica s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2na viitoare… Dac\u0103 a\u0219 fi McGovern, cred c\u0103 a\u0219 ernun\u021ba.<\/h4>\n

HK: Po\u021bi s\u0103-mi spui ce indic\u0103? Nu mai spun nim\u0103nui.<\/h4>\n

HS: Da, dar c\u00e2t se poate de confiden\u021bial, pentru c\u0103…<\/h4>\n

HK: \u00ce\u021bi dau cuv\u00e2ntul meu, nu spun nim\u0103nui.<\/h4>\n

HS: E o diferen\u021b\u0103 de 39-40 de procente… Ceva de genul \u0219aizeci \u0219i ceva la, Dumnezeule mare, dou\u0103zeci… Undeva, pe-aici…<\/h4>\n

HK: Uluitor.<\/h4>\n

HS: Da… Pornind de la asta, perspectiva apare cu totul altfel.<\/h4>\n

Henry Kissinger \u0219i H.R. Haldeman, 22 septembrie 1972<\/em><\/strong><\/h4>\n

HRH: Bun\u0103. Eu sunt, Bob.<\/h4>\n

HK:  E\u0219ti \u00een avion?<\/h4>\n

HRH: Sunt la sol.<\/h4>\n

HK: Pe o linie deschis\u0103?<\/h4>\n

HRH: Nu, pe una sigur\u0103.<\/h4>\n

HK: Probabil c\u0103 \u0219tii deja, iar mi s-a livrat sub forma unei informa\u021bii foarte confiden\u021biale. M-a sunat Hugh Sidey. Tocmai au realizat un sondaj care arat\u0103 c\u0103 pre\u0219edintele are 39 de procente avans.<\/h4>\n

HRH: N-a spus c\u00e2nd \u00eel public\u0103?<\/h4>\n

HK: M-a sunat ca s\u0103-mi comunice altceva, a\u0219a c\u0103 nu s-a referit la asta. N-ar fi trebuit s\u0103 spun nim\u0103nui. M-a rugat s\u0103-i promit…<\/h4>\n

<\/h4>\n
\"H.R.<\/a>
H.R. Haldeman<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Ipocri\u021bii \u0103\u0219tia!<\/strong><\/h4>\n

\u00cen convorbirea de mai jos, Nixon \u0219i Kissinger pun la cale discreditarea democra\u021bilor prin scoaterea la lumin\u0103 a unor \u00eenregistr\u0103ri secrete efectuate de Robert Kennedy \u0219i al\u021bii. Pe atunci, afacerea Watergate nu fusese \u00eenc\u0103 dat\u0103 \u00een vileag \u0219i nu se cuno\u0219tea faptul c\u0103 \u0219i Nixon \u00eei \u00eenregistra pe mul\u021bi \u00een secret. Kissinger nu-\u0219i d\u0103duse seama c\u0103 era… monitorizat de Nixon. Dar nici Nixon nu \u0219tia c\u0103 secretarele lui Kissinger transcriau convorbirile dintre ei…<\/em><\/h4>\n

Henry Kissinger \u0219i Richard Nixon, 1 iunie 1973<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

RN: Mi-ai spus c\u0103 McGeorge Bundy (fost consilier pe probleme de securitate na\u021bional\u0103 al lui John Kennedy) a avut neru\u0219inarea s\u0103-\u021bi spun\u0103 c\u0103 Bobby Kennedy n-a avut nici un fel de benzi… S-o lase mai moale cu porc\u0103ria asta. Bobby Kennedy a \u00eenregistrat cel mai mult: avea 300 de benzi \u00een 1963. Aproape 300. Aflu eu numele tuturor \u0219i le public joia viitoare… Nemernicii \u0103ia s\u0103 \u0219tie c\u0103 a\u0219a o s\u0103 fac, Henry.<\/h4>\n

HK: Sigur, a\u0219a cred c-ar trebui s\u0103 face\u021bi.<\/h4>\n

RN: Pentru c\u0103 \u0219i ei ne-au f\u0103cut la fel… Ei au \u00eenceput. Vor o lupt\u0103 dur\u0103? P\u0103i, exact asta o s\u0103 aib\u0103… \u0218i-a\u0219 vrea ca tu… P\u00e2n\u0103 luni, nu. Dar dup\u0103 aceea f\u0103 s\u0103 transpire afacerea. Vorbe\u0219te cu unul dintre prietenii t\u0103i liberali \u0219i spune-i c\u0103 preg\u0103tim o bomb\u0103.<\/h4>\n

HK: Pot s-o fac, bine\u00een\u021beles.<\/h4>\n

RN: Po\u021bi spune, uite, toat\u0103 treaba asta cu \u00eenregistr\u0103rile, ei au declann\u0219at-o… De fapt, Hoover (fostul \u0219ef al FBI) mi-a spus. El zicea c\u0103 Bobby Kennedy \u00eenregistra pe toat\u0103 lumea. Cred c\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 \u0219i eu sunt pe list\u0103.<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu m-ar mira.<\/h4>\n

RN: Nu c\u0103 mi-ar p\u0103sa. Problema e c\u0103 nu-mi place blestemata asta de ipocrizie!<\/h4>\n

HK: Domnule pre\u0219edinte, dac\u0103 facem rost de nume, putem da drumul la c\u00e2teva.<\/h4>\n

RN: Nu la c\u00e2teva, la toate<\/em>! Trebuie dat drumul la tot, la toat\u0103 lista aia blestemat\u0103.<\/h4>\n

HK: Da, dar atunci ne vor for\u021ba s\u0103 spunem \u0219i noi toate<\/em> numele…<\/h4>\n

RN: Ei, pe naiba… Ale noastre vor ie\u0219i la lumin\u0103 oricum… \u0218i nu-i mai permite nici o obr\u0103znicie lui McGeorge Bundy.<\/h4>\n

HK: \u00cen regul\u0103.<\/h4>\n

RN: \u00centrce orice \u00eenchipuire!<\/h4>\n

<\/h4>\n
\"Richard<\/a>
Richard Nixon<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Nu, nu vrea s\u0103 plece!<\/strong><\/h4>\n

De\u0219i scandalul Watergate era \u00een floare \u0219i speran\u021bele de a-l domoli sc\u0103deau v\u0103z\u00e2nd cu ochii, Nixon \u0219i cei din anturajul s\u0103u nu erau con\u0219tien\u021bi de amploarea consecin\u021belor lui devastatoare. Pu\u021bine au fost momentele \u00een care \u0219i-au dat seama de posibilitatea unei demisii for\u021bate a pre\u0219edintelui. Chiar \u0219i atunci, s-au referit la adversarii lui Nixon \u00een treac\u0103t, cu dispre\u021b \u0219i condescenden\u021b\u0103.<\/em><\/h4>\n

Henry Kissiger \u0219i Richard Nixon, 10 iunie 1975<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

HK: Domnule pre\u0219edinte, nu e vorba de lips\u0103 de \u00eencredere \u00een ceea ce face\u021bi… Problema e c\u0103 unii senatori democra\u021bi… Problema e c\u0103 avem \u00een \u021bar\u0103 asemenea tr\u0103d\u0103tori nemernici.<\/h4>\n

RN: Nu te l\u0103sa descurajat, Henry. Auzi tot felul de lucruri de la oamenii \u0103\u0219tia, dar nu vreau ca ele s\u0103 te descurajeze.<\/h4>\n

HK:<\/h4>\n

RN: Adev\u0103rata problem\u0103 este asta: \u00eencearc\u0103 s\u0103 distrug\u0103 toate victoriile noastre asupra lor. I-am \u00eenvins \u00een China, i-am \u00eenvins \u00een Rusia, i-am \u00eenvins \u00een r\u0103zboi…<\/h4>\n

HK: N-o s\u0103 reu\u0219easc\u0103 folosindu-se de Watergate. Dimpotriv\u0103, Watergate \u00eei va \u00eempiedica s\u0103 fac\u0103 acele lucruri pe care astfel le-ar fi f\u0103cut.<\/h4>\n

RN: Oamenii \u0103\u0219tia… Ni\u0219te perfizi, nu-i a\u0219a? Ai spus tu asta de mult, Henry, chiar aici, \u00een Biroul Oval.<\/h4>\n

HK: \u0218i era adev\u0103rat.<\/h4>\n

RN: Am supravie\u021buit p\u00e2n\u0103 acum, vom supravie\u021bui \u0219i de acum \u00eencolo… S\u0103 nu ne pierdem cu firea. Dac\u0103 vor reu\u0219i, va fi ceva de scurt\u0103 durat\u0103. S\u0103 presupunem c\u0103… Eu n-am de g\u00e2nd s\u0103 demisionez, dar \u0219i ceea ce vor ei e de neconceput: Nixon \u0219i Agnew (vicepre\u0219edintele) s\u0103 demisioneze \u0219i Congresul s\u0103 numeasc\u0103 un pre\u0219edinte.<\/h4>\n

HK: Domnule pre\u0219edinte, demisia ar fi o catastrof\u0103 na\u021bional\u0103.<\/h4>\n

RN: Asta nu se va \u00eent\u00e2mpla niciodat\u0103.<\/h4>\n

HK: M\u0103 g\u00e2ndesc, domnule pre\u0219edinte, la c\u00e2te lucruri a\u021bi putea face \u00een urm\u0103torii trei ani ai mandatului.<\/h4>\n

RN: p\u0103i, s-o spunem cu voce tare; Henry Truman a continuat s\u0103 promoveze Planul Marshall de\u0219i avea \u00een sondaje 20-23 la sut\u0103. Iat\u0103 de ce ne afl\u0103m noi aici.<\/h4>\n

HK: Domnule pre\u0219edinte, pute\u021bi r\u0103m\u00e2ne \u00een istorie ca omul care a realizat cea mai mare revolu\u021bie produs\u0103 vreodat\u0103 \u00een politica extern\u0103 american\u0103.<\/h4>\n

Poetul \u0219i diplomatul<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Chiar cei mai vechi ziari\u0219ti acredita\u021bi la Casa Alb\u0103 sunt deruta\u021bi de convorbirea dintre Kissinger \u0219i poetul beat Allan Ginsberg. Dup\u0103 toate aparen\u021bele, cei doi nu se cuno\u0219teau. Dar Kissinger era la curent cu via\u021ba literar\u0103 \u0219i, cu toate c\u0103 le vorbea de r\u0103u \u00een fa\u021ba lui Nixon sau a altor oficiali, \u00eencerca s\u0103 r\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een gra\u021biile elitelor de st\u00e2nga din care f\u0103cea parte Ginsberg. C\u00e2nd acesta a produs o \u00eent\u00e2lnire \u00eentre membri ai administra\u021biei (printre care \u0219eful CIA, Richard Helms) \u0219i diver\u0219i adep\u021bi ai p\u0103cii (senatorul Eugene McCarthy, activi\u0219tii antir\u0103zboi Rennie Davis \u0219i David Dellinger, \u0219i lupt\u0103torul pentru drepturi civile Ralph Abernathy), Kissinger s-a ar\u0103tat de \u00eendat\u0103 interesat.<\/em><\/h4>\n

Henry Kissinger \u0219i Allan Ginsberg, 25 aprilie 1971<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

AG: V\u0103 sun, \u00een parte, la cererea senatorului McCarthy… Ideea este de a organiza o discu\u021bie \u00eentre dvs., Helms, McCarthy, poate chiar Nixon, \u0219i Rennie Davis, Dellinger \u0219i Abernathy. Poate avea loc oric\u00e2nd.<\/h4>\n

HK: M-am \u00eent\u00e2lnit cu mul\u021bi membri ai grupurilor pacifiste, dar ceea ce am constatat este c\u0103 se gr\u0103besc \u00eentotdeauna s\u0103 dea presei con\u021binutului \u00eent\u00e2lnirilor. \u00cemi plac totu\u0219i asemenea \u00eentrevederi, nu at\u00e2t pentru a l\u0103muri oamenii cu care stau de vorb\u0103, c\u00e2t pentru a-mi face o idee despre ceea ce g\u00e2ndesc. Sunt oric\u00e2nd gata, \u00een principiu, s\u0103 avem o \u00eent\u00e2lnire particular\u0103.<\/h4>\n

AG: Corect, numai c\u0103 apare o problem\u0103 de delicate\u021be fa\u021b\u0103 de ceilal\u021bi. C\u00e2nd ai de-a face cu sim\u021bul etic al omului, este greu s\u0103 stabile\u0219ti limite.<\/h4>\n

HK: Nu po\u021bi stabili limite sim\u021bului etic, dar…<\/h4>\n

AG: \u00cen timpul discu\u021biei, am putea \u00eencerca s\u0103 ajungem la o oarecare \u00een\u021belegere.<\/h4>\n

HK: Po\u021bi fixa limite la ceea ce declari public.<\/h4>\n

AG: Ar fi mult mai amuzant dac\u0103 am desf\u0103\u0219ura \u00eentrevederea la televiziune.<\/h4>\n

HK: Ce?<\/h4>\n

AG: Ar fi \u0219i mai util\u0103 dac\u0103 am putea-o face \u00een pielea goal\u0103, la televiziune.<\/h4>\n

HK: (R\u00e2de \u00een hohote<\/em>)<\/h4>\n

Material aparut in revista \u201eLumea\u201d, An XIII Nr. 6(146) 2005<\/em><\/h4>
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