{"id":3727,"date":"2021-04-16T08:36:12","date_gmt":"2021-04-16T08:36:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/desteptati.ro\/?p=3727"},"modified":"2022-01-31T14:57:57","modified_gmt":"2022-01-31T12:57:57","slug":"interviu-cu-acad-istoric-dinu-c-giurescu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/desteptati-va.ro\/index.php\/2021\/04\/16\/interviu-cu-acad-istoric-dinu-c-giurescu\/","title":{"rendered":"Interviu cu Acad. Istoric Dinu C. Giurescu"},"content":{"rendered":"
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\u201eDore\u015fte actuala majoritate parlamentar\u0103 s\u0103 destrame teritorial Rom\u00e2nia?”<\/strong><\/h3>\n

\u00cen 10 februarie recent, \u201epe neobservate”, a\u015fa cum \u00ee\u015fi dore\u015fte Marko Bela, senatorii Puterii au l\u0103sat s\u0103 treac\u0103 pe sub nasul Opozi\u0163iei proiectul legii unei noi regionaliz\u0103ri a Rom\u00e2niei, pus \u00een oper\u0103 de UDMR. F\u0103r\u0103 e explica de ce actualele opt regiuni de dezvoltare nu sunt bune, f\u0103r\u0103 nici o presiune din partea UE \u015fi aparent f\u0103r\u0103 nici o logic\u0103, liderii udemeri\u015fti au continuat practicarea a ceea ce \u015ftiu ei cel mai bine: \u015fantajul.<\/h4>\n

Din confruntarea cu partidele rom\u00e2ne\u015fti ahtiate dup\u0103 putere, ast\u0103zi, ca \u015fi ieri \u015fi alalt\u0103ieri, organiza\u0163ia cu rol de partid etnic a ie\u015fit \u00eentotdeauna \u00eenving\u0103toare. Pas cu pas, urm\u0103rindu-\u015fi programul \u015fi \u201eviziunea” pe termen lung, UDMR a \u015fantajat tot ce se putea, a ob\u0163inut tot ce \u015fi-a dorit, a aplicat \u00eentregul \u201earsenal istoric” al gherilei etno-centriste, separatiste, autonomiste. Cu o doz\u0103 uria\u015f\u0103 de arogan\u0163\u0103 \u015fi sfidare, liderii a\u015fa-zi\u015fi \u201eeuropeni” ai maghiarimii din Rom\u00e2nia au avut curajul s\u0103 propun\u0103 guvernan\u0163ilor de la Bucure\u015fti refacerea h\u0103r\u0163ii tragice din 1940, c\u00e2nd pumnalul horthysto-hitleristo-mussolinian a fost \u00eenfipt \u00een trupul Transilvaniei. Cum aceast\u0103 sfidare nu e de ajuns pentru \u00eendeplinirea planurilor autonomiste, UDMR face presiuni asupra guvernan\u0163ilor s\u0103 treac\u0103, \u00een paralel, \u015fi Legea Minorit\u0103\u0163ilor prin asumarea r\u0103spunderii guvernului \u2013 metoda prin care guvernul Boc a d\u0103ruit de cur\u00e2nd liderilor udemeri\u015fti istoria \u015fi geografia \u00een limba maghiar\u0103, precum \u015fi o \u00eentins\u0103 list\u0103 cu discrimin\u0103ri pozitive \u00een \u00eenv\u0103\u0163\u0103m\u00e2nt. \u00cen acest mod, \u015fefii celei mai \u00eensemnate minorit\u0103\u0163i etnice din Rom\u00e2nia ob\u0163in supra-drepturi orientate f\u0103\u0163i\u015f spre separatism etnic \u015fi chiar spre anularea de facto a unirii Transilvaniei cu Tara Mam\u0103. Ne afl\u0103m, practic, \u00een stare de \u201ealarm\u0103 la vedere”, cum se spune \u00een avia\u0163ie, deoarece UDMR nu mai face nici m\u0103car un minim de efort pentru a-\u015fi masca inten\u0163iile. \u00cen acest context, de o gravitate extrem\u0103 pentru destinul statului na\u0163ional unitar rom\u00e2n, am considerat necesar s\u0103 afl\u0103m opinia unuia dintre marii istorici de la Academie, profesorul Dinu C. Giurescu.<\/h4>\n

\u201ePotrivit Legii Educa\u0163iei, 92% dintre elevii rom\u00e2ni au mai pu\u0163ine drepturi dec\u00e2t 8% dintre elevii minorit\u0103\u0163ilor”<\/strong><\/h4>\n

– \u201eRepetabila alian\u0163\u0103” dintre UDMR \u015fi partidele care s-au perindat p\u00e2n\u0103 acum la putere, \u00eempline\u015fte, azi-m\u00e2ine, 20 de ani. Cum vede\u0163i, domnule profesor, aceast\u0103 evolu\u0163ie?<\/em><\/h4>\n

– Dup\u0103 1990, minorit\u0103\u0163ile etnice, indiferent de num\u0103rul lor, au ob\u0163inut un statut extrem de generos, av\u00e2nd, printre altele, reprezentan\u0163i \u00een parlament \u00een mod automat. Se deta\u015feaz\u0103 la mare distan\u0163\u0103 maghiarii, condu\u015fi de UDMR – o entitate cu un statut nedefinit: nici partid politic, nici organiza\u0163ie neguvernamental\u0103. Nu conteaz\u0103 \u00eens\u0103 dac\u0103 este sau nu partid politic. Interesant este s\u0103 urm\u0103rim ce a ob\u0163inut UDMR particip\u00e2nd la toate legislaturile \u015fi aproape la toate guvernele. V\u0103 spun de pe acum: nu am nimic \u00eempotriv\u0103 dac\u0103 UDMR particip\u0103 la guvernul central; ei au oameni bine preg\u0103ti\u0163i, trebuie s\u0103 recunoa\u015ftem, iar mul\u0163i din genera\u0163ia mai b\u0103tr\u00e2n\u0103, nu din cea t\u00e2n\u0103r\u0103, vorbesc bine rom\u00e2ne\u015fte. Ca urmare, pot s\u0103 aib\u0103 o contribu\u0163ie pozitiv\u0103 la gospod\u0103rirea treburilor \u0163\u0103rii. Unde \u00eencep lucrurile s\u0103 se strice este acolo unde aceast\u0103 organiza\u0163ie \u00eencearc\u0103 s\u0103 ob\u0163in\u0103 mai multe drepturi dec\u00e2t marea majoritate a rom\u00e2nilor. O s\u0103 m\u0103 refer la un domeniu pe care \u00eel cunosc mai bine: Legea Educa\u0163iei. Aceast\u0103 lege \u00eei \u00eemparte pe \u015fcolari \u00een dou\u0103 mari categorii: 92% din elevii rom\u00e2ni de \u015fcoal\u0103 general\u0103 \u015fi liceu au mai pu\u0163ine drepturi dec\u00e2t 8% din elevii minorit\u0103\u0163ilor. Foarte bine c\u0103 tineretul minoritar are drepturi multe, dar vreau ca acelea\u015fi drepturi s\u0103 fie extinse \u015fi asupra rom\u00e2nilor. Atunci suntem de acord. Dar ca majoritatea s\u0103 fie discriminat\u0103 negativ \u00een favoarea minorit\u0103\u0163ii e un lucru pe care nu-l \u00een\u0163eleg. Nu \u00een\u0163eleg cum o \u015fcoal\u0103 cu numai 5-6 elevi maghiari continu\u0103 s\u0103 func\u0163ioneze, \u00een timp ce o \u015fcoal\u0103 cu 10-15 elevi rom\u00e2ni se \u00eenchide. Cea dint\u00e2i cap\u0103t\u0103 personalitate juridic\u0103, \u00een timp ce a doua nu. O anomalie! O lege foarte greu de \u00een\u0163eles. Al doilea exemplu: niciunul dintre cele 23 de \u201eprincipii directoare” ale legii nu face trimitere la necesitatea cunoa\u015fterii istoriei, crea\u0163iei \u015fi civiliza\u0163iei rom\u00e2ne\u015fti. \u00cen schimb, c\u00e2nd e vorba de minoritari, se spune explicit c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 cunoasc\u0103 istoria, tradi\u0163iile, civiliza\u0163ia comunit\u0103\u0163ii respective. De acord s\u0103 cunoasc\u0103 ei, dar de ce nu \u015fi noi? Mai mult, istoria este acceptat\u0103 ca materie a \u201ebacalaureatului na\u0163ional” numai la clasele umaniste, iar manualul de clasa a XII-a nu se mai nume\u015fte \u201eIstoria rom\u00e2nilor”, ci, simplu, \u201eIstorie”. Cui \u00eei e ru\u015fine de istoria rom\u00e2nilor? Curioas\u0103 sc\u0103pare…<\/h4>\n

– De ce crede\u0163i c\u0103 i-au t\u0103iat pe \u201erom\u00e2ni” din titlul manualului?<\/em><\/h3>\n

– Ca s\u0103 se piard\u0103 identitatea na\u0163ional\u0103 a rom\u00e2nilor. O spun cu toat\u0103 seriozitatea, cu deplin\u0103 r\u0103spundere: mai multe fapte asem\u0103n\u0103toare merg c\u0103tre acest scop. Tineretul s\u0103 nu mai aib\u0103 con\u015ftiin\u0163a apartenen\u0163ei la un neam. S\u0103 fie un tineret de \u0103sta, euro-atlantic, axat pe valori precum mall-uri, vacan\u0163e, c\u0103l\u0103torii, braking news, vibe radio etc. Pentru minorit\u0103\u0163i, vom avea \u00eens\u0103 manuale diferite, \u00een limbile lor materne. \u00cen acest caz m\u0103 \u00eentreb de ce? Crede\u0163i c\u00ad-o s\u0103 cunoasc\u0103 mai bine istoria \u015fi geografia Rom\u00e2niei, dac\u0103 le-o traducem \u00een maghiar\u0103 sau german\u0103? Mi se pare extrem de stranie aceast\u0103 prevedere. Dac\u0103 vorbim, \u00een context, de Tirolul austriac, at\u00e2t de des invocat de UDMR, cred c\u0103 germanii din Italia (din Tirol) ar fi foarte mira\u0163i dac\u0103, \u00eentr-o zi, li s-ar spune c\u0103 vor \u00eenv\u0103\u0163a istoria Italiei \u00een limba german\u0103, \u015fi nu \u00een italian\u0103, cum se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 \u00een prezent. Ar fi uimi\u0163i s\u0103 aud\u0103 c\u0103 limba italian\u0103, limba statului \u00een care tr\u0103iesc, le este predat\u0103 ca limb\u0103 str\u0103in\u0103, cum se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 cu limba rom\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een \u015fcolile maghiare de la noi. Am senza\u0163ia c\u0103 toate aceste revendic\u0103ri ale UDMR, satisf\u0103cute \u201ela moment” de majoritatea rom\u00e2neasc\u0103 \u015fantajabil\u0103, tind la o separare complet\u0103 a minorit\u0103\u0163ii maghiare de majoritatea rom\u00e2neasc\u0103: \u201eNu mai vreau s\u0103 am de a face cu dumneata! Nici \u00een educa\u0163ie, nici teritorial, nici ca simboluri, nimic. S\u0103 ne separ\u0103m!” Bine, dar totu\u015fi tr\u0103im \u00eentr-un stat care are grani\u0163e recunoscute interna\u0163ional, un stat na\u0163ional ce vine din istorie, sunt realit\u0103\u0163i pe care nu le putem nega… \u201eEi, bine: noi vrem separare!” Aici mergem… Si-mi pun \u00eentrebarea: domnilor de la UDMR, dori\u0163i ca aceast\u0103 separare, s\u0103-i zicem cultural\u0103, s\u0103 duc\u0103 la o separare teritorial\u0103? \u00centrebare retoric\u0103, se \u00een\u0163elege…<\/h4>\n

\u201e\u00cen viziunea UDMR jude\u0163ele ar urma s\u0103 dispar\u0103”<\/strong><\/h3>\n

– Prin Senat a trecut o lege ho\u0163easc\u0103, prin care UDMR urm\u0103re\u015fte s\u0103-\u015fi decupeze din Rom\u00e2nia propria \u0163ar\u0103, merg\u00e2nd pe grani\u0163ele trasate \u00een 1940 de criminalii de r\u0103zboi Horthy Miklos, Benito Mussolini \u015fi Adolf Hitler. C\u00e2t este de grav acest lucru, domnule academician?<\/em><\/h4>\n

– Pornind de la Regulamentul Parlamentului European \u015fi al Consiliului European, Guvenul Rom\u00e2n a ini\u0163iat \u015fi Parlamentul a aprobat Legea nr. 315\/2004, privind dezvoltarea regional\u0103, stabilind opt regiuni de dezvoltare \u015fi p\u0103str\u00e2nd \u00eemp\u0103r\u0163irea pe jude\u0163e. \u00cen 2009, senatorii \u015fi deputa\u0163ii UDMR au \u00eenaintat Senatului o propunere legislativ\u0103 pentru \u201emodificarea \u015fi completarea Legii 315\/2004″. Propunerea const\u0103 \u00een formarea a 16 regiuni \u015fi 5 macroregiuni de dezvoltare, \u00een locul celor 8 existente \u00een prezent. Expunerea de motive nu explic\u0103 de ce \u00eemp\u0103r\u0163irea pe cele 8 regiuni de dezvoltare din 2004 ar trebui \u00eenlocuit\u0103. De notat c\u0103 denumirea de \u201ejude\u0163” nu apare nic\u0103ieri \u00een propunerea UDMR, ceea ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 jude\u0163ele ar urma s\u0103 dispar\u0103. Mai mult, cele 16 regiuni de dezvoltare reprezint\u0103 o faz\u0103 intermediar\u0103, cu o durat\u0103 de 3 ani, spre cele cinci macroregiuni, obligatorii, sper\u0103 UDMR, din 2013. Desfiin\u0163area jude\u0163elor ar fi un unicum \u00een Uniunea European\u0103, unde asemenea unit\u0103\u0163i teritoriale de baz\u0103 exist\u0103 \u00een continuare, \u00een toate \u0163\u0103rile. \u00centre cele 16 proiectate regiuni de dezvoltare, la nr. 14 figureaz\u0103 \u201eCovasna-Harghita-Mure\u015f”, fiind astfel reconstituit\u0103 teritorial, pe baze etnice, fosta \u201eRegiune autonom\u0103 maghiar\u0103” din anii 1952-1958. Ins\u0103 aspectul cel mai grav existent \u00een propunerea UDMR prive\u015fte Macroregiunea de nord, trasat\u0103 pe aceea\u015fi grani\u0163\u0103 cu cea atribuit\u0103 Ungariei prin \u201earbitrajul” puterilor Axei din august 1940. S\u0103 fie o simpl\u0103 coinciden\u0163\u0103? De ce n-au redesenat grani\u0163ele din 1916, c\u0103 tot acela\u015fi lucru ar fi fost? Coroborat\u0103 cu Legea Statutului Minorit\u0103\u0163ilor \u015fi cu Legea Educa\u0163iei, regionalizarea \u201emarca UDMR” urm\u0103re\u015fte clar desprinderea p\u0103r\u0163ii de nord \u015fi nord-vest a Transilvaniei, cu o suprafa\u0163\u0103 de peste 50.000 de kilometri patra\u0163i, de sub suveranitatea statului rom\u00e2n. Cred \u00eens\u0103 c\u0103 nu se va ajunge aici dac\u0103 rom\u00e2nii vor reac\u0163iona pentru ap\u0103rarea individualit\u0103\u0163ii \u015fi drepturilor lor, respect\u00e2nd \u00een acela\u015fi timp toate preceptele UE.<\/h4>\n

\u201eNu este prea complicat s\u0103 se constituie un <nou stat> pe teritoriul unui stat european”<\/strong><\/h3>\n

– Care ar putea fi urm\u0103rile manevrelor udemeriste?<\/em><\/h3>\n

– Evenimente relativ recente (vezi fosta Iugoslavie) au demonstrat c\u0103 nu este prea complicat s\u0103 se constituie un \u201enou stat” pe teritoriul unui stat european, fie prin mijloace militare, fie altele, cu concursul sus\u0163inut al mass-mediei interna\u0163ionale. Este un posibil precedent care, adaptat, poate fi invocat \u015fi pus \u00een practic\u0103 \u015fi \u00een Rom\u00e2nia. Anume o deta\u015fare de facto, prin regionalizare \u015fi mijloace economice (investi\u0163ii mari) menite s\u0103 arate tuturor locuitorilor avantajele noii \u00eemp\u0103r\u0163iri teritoriale.<\/h4>\n

– Cum a fost posibil ca Senatul s\u0103 adopte propunerea prin aprobare tacit\u0103?<\/em><\/h3>\n

– Printr-o manevr\u0103 ini\u0163iat\u0103 de liderul majorit\u0103\u0163ii PDL din Senat. Fapt e c\u0103 o propunere de \u00eemp\u0103r\u0163ire a Rom\u00e2niei pe regiuni a trecut de una dintre Camere f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 fi avut loc nici un fel de dezbatere \u015fi nici un fel de discu\u0163ie \u00een public, fiind totu\u015fi vorba de o chestiune de interes na\u0163ional \u015fi care prive\u015fte destinul a milioane de cet\u0103\u0163eni rom\u00e2ni. P\u00e2n\u0103 \u015fi regimul comunist a fost mai… democratic la acest capitol dec\u00e2t autorit\u0103\u0163ile actuale. C\u00e2nd Ceau\u015fescu a renun\u0163at, \u00een 1968, la \u00eemp\u0103r\u0163irea \u00een raioanele \u015fi regiunile de tip sovietic, propunerea de revenire la jude\u0163e a fost publicat\u0103 \u00een pres\u0103, cu harta respectiv\u0103, spre dezbatere public\u0103. Iar definitivarea, atunci, \u00een 1968, a \u0163inut seam\u0103 \u015fi de opiniile venite din public, ca, de exemplu, constituirea a dou\u0103 jude\u0163e, Br\u0103ila \u015fi Gala\u0163i, \u00een locul unuia singur, cum doreau ini\u0163ial tovar\u0103\u015fii. Asta a fost atunci. Dar e posibil oare ca, \u00eentr-un sistem cu mai multe partide \u015fi pres\u0103 liber\u0103, constituirea unor noi regiuni de dezvoltare, cu consecin\u0163e ce pot duce foarte departe, s\u0103 treac\u0103 pe t\u0103cute, pe furi\u015f, ascuns\u0103 cu totul opiniei publice?! Ne \u00eentreb\u0103m pe bun\u0103 dreptate: dore\u015fte actuala majoritate parlamentar\u0103 \u2013 PDL, UDMR, UNPR \u015fi minorit\u0103\u0163i \u2013 s\u0103 destrame teritorial Rom\u00e2nia?<\/h4>\n

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