{"id":3761,"date":"2021-04-16T10:14:29","date_gmt":"2021-04-16T10:14:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/desteptati.ro\/?p=3761"},"modified":"2021-04-16T10:14:29","modified_gmt":"2021-04-16T10:14:29","slug":"nina-iliescu-ionele-orice-sa-nu-care-cumva-sa-vina-rusii-ne-descurcam-singuri","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/desteptati-va.ro\/index.php\/2021\/04\/16\/nina-iliescu-ionele-orice-sa-nu-care-cumva-sa-vina-rusii-ne-descurcam-singuri\/","title":{"rendered":"Nina Iliescu: &#8222;Ionele, orice, s\u0103 nu care cumva s\u0103 vin\u0103 ru\u015fii, ne descurc\u0103m singuri!&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"post-content\"><div class='booster-block booster-read-block'>\n                <div class=\"twp-read-time\">\n                \t<i class=\"booster-icon twp-clock\"><\/i> <span>Read Time:<\/span>5 Minute, 47 Second                <\/div>\n\n            <\/div><h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cornel Dinu a intervenit telefonic la emisiunea &#8222;Na\u015ful&#8221;, de la B1 TV, \u00een cadrul dezbaterii pe tema evenimentelor din decembrie 1989, dezv\u0103luind elemente noi despre cursul ac\u0163iunilor din seara zilei de 22 spre 23 decembrie.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Discu\u0163iile din cadrul emisiunii au abordat subiectul unei posibile solicit\u0103ri ale unei interven\u0163ii a armatei sovietice \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, de c\u0103tre noii vectori de putere instala\u0163i la conducerea \u0163\u0103rii imediat dup\u0103 plecarea lui Ceau\u015fescu din cl\u0103direa CC-ului.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Calific\u00e2nd evenimentele din decembrie &#8217;89 drept o &#8222;lovitur\u0103 de stat cu public&#8221;, Dinu a relatat momentele pe care le-a tr\u0103it \u00een noul centru de putere ce \u00ee\u015fi desf\u0103\u015fura activitatea \u00een cl\u0103direa televiziunii.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Referitor la posibilitatea interven\u0163iei armate a sovieticilor \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, Dinu a declarat c\u0103 are informa\u0163ii c\u0103, \u00eentr-un r\u0103stimp oferit de nefunc\u0163ionalitatea sistemului de supraveghere aerian\u0103 a Rom\u00e2niei (de circa o or\u0103 ), s-a produs undeva &#8222;\u00een mun\u0163i&#8221; un desant de trupe OMON &#8211; trupe speciale ale armatei sovietice.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dinu a declarat c\u0103 au existat discu\u0163ii privind interven\u0163ia acestor trupe \u00een teatrul de lupt\u0103 izbucnit \u00een Rom\u00e2nia \u00een seara zilei de 22 decembrie 1989, cu unul din consilierii Ambasadei Uniunii Sovietice, \u00een absen\u0163a din Rom\u00e2nia a ambasadorului Evgheni Tiajelnikov, Dinu a m\u0103rturisit c\u0103 discu\u0163iile purtate cu consilierul sovietic au avut loc \u00een biroul de la etajul 11 al Televiziunii Rom\u00e2ne, \u00een noaptea zilei de 22 spre 23 decembrie 1989, undeva \u00een jurul orelor 3-4. El a spus c\u0103 \u00een \u00eenc\u0103pere se aflau mai multe persoane, dintre care i-a enumerat pe Petre Roman, Ion Iliescu, Silviu Brucan, Mihai Bujor, Petre Constantin (directorul Televiziunii la acel moment) \u015fi Nina Iliescu.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dinu a spus c\u0103 dialogul telefonic s-a purtat \u00een limba rus\u0103. Dipomatul sovietic a informat noua conducere rom\u00e2n\u0103 despre imposibilitatea acord\u0103rii unui ajutor militar, preciz\u00e2nd faptul c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 disponibilitatea utiliz\u0103rii interven\u0163iei trupelor de elit\u0103 OMON, care sunt debarcate \u015fi care puteau ajunge la Bucure\u015fti \u00eentr-un interval de maxim dou\u0103 ore.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Conform lui Cornel Dinu, \u00een dialog, din partea rom\u00e2n\u0103 au discutat Ion Iliescu \u015fi Petre Roman. Referitor la Petre Roman, Dinu a afirmat c\u0103 a remarcat exprimarea extrem de fluent\u0103 a acestuia \u00een limba rus\u0103, \u015fi c\u0103 a intervenit de mai multe ori \u00een cadrul discu\u0163iei cu diplomatul rus, fiind cel care cerea cu insisten\u0163\u0103 ajutorul trupelor sovietice .<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dinu a povestit c\u0103 Ion Iliescu, care \u015fi-a p\u0103strat tot timpul cump\u0103tul, a luat leg\u0103tura cu generalul Victor St\u0103nculescu, aflat \u00een acel moment \u00een centrul de comand\u0103 al Marelui Stat Major al Armatei Rom\u00e2ne, \u015fi c\u0103 acesta ar fi dezavuat orice interven\u0163ie militar\u0103 str\u0103in\u0103, dar a cerut un scurt r\u0103gaz pentru a confirma ferm acest lucru. Dup\u0103 zece minute, Victor St\u0103nculescu a declarat c\u0103 situa\u0163ia este sub control \u015fi c\u0103 nu se pune problema solicit\u0103rii vreunui ajutor militar din partea sovieticilor, \u015fi c\u0103 &#8222;ne descurc\u0103m prin for\u0163e proprii&#8221;.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cornel Dinu \u015fi-a reamintit de interven\u0163ia Ninei Iliescu, pe care a caracterizat-o drept &#8222;o femeie extraordinar\u0103&#8221;, care i-ar fi spus so\u0163ului s\u0103u: &#8222;Ionele, orice, s\u0103 nu care cumva s\u0103 vin\u0103 ru\u015fii, ne descurc\u0103m singuri!&#8221;.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00centrebat despre implicarea lui Silviu Brucan \u00een negocierea cu sovieticii, Dinu a mai declarat c\u0103 acesta a ie\u015fit de mai multe ori din \u00eenc\u0103pere, \u015fi c\u0103, \u00eenainte de episodul relatat, a surprins un dialog telefonic al acestuia, purtat \u00een limba englez\u0103, \u015fi din c\u00e2te \u015fi-a dar seama, la cel\u0103lalt cap\u0103t al firului era cineva din Ambasada SUA la Bucure\u015fti.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cen stilul s\u0103u mali\u0163ios, Cornel Dinu a caracterizat persoanele prezente \u00een biroul de la etajul 11 al televiziunii, drept &#8222;o adunare de sacouri \u015fi pulovere&#8221;, afirm\u00e2nd: &#8222;eu eram \u00een sacou, ca Brucan&#8221;.\r\nEl a spus c\u0103 niciunul din cei prezen\u0163i nu vedea ca un poten\u0163ial pericol \u00een subminarea autorit\u0103\u0163ii venind din partea celuilalt grup, constituit \u00een cl\u0103direa CC-ului, exprim\u00e2nd p\u0103rerea c\u0103 &#8222;jocurile erau deja f\u0103cute&#8221;. El a men\u0163ionat c\u0103 a fost prezent \u00een televiziune din dup\u0103-amiaza zilei de 22 decembrie 1989, p\u00e2n\u0103 la ora 7,30 a zilei urm\u0103toare.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dinu \u015fi-a mai exprimat p\u0103rerea c\u0103 \u00een cadrul \u00eent\u00e2lnirii de la Malta dintre Bush \u015fi Gorbaciov au fost delimitate noile sfere de influen\u0163\u0103 are marilor puteri, \u015fi c\u0103 acolo a fost stabilit \u015fi scenariul pentru Rom\u00e2nia. &#8222;La Malta, Bush \u015fi Gorbaciov au stabilit c\u0103 trebuie schimbat\u0103 toat\u0103 figura\u0163ia, \u00een momentul acela s-a stabilit \u00een ce sfere de influen\u0163\u0103 va r\u0103m\u00e2ne Rom\u00e2nia \u015fi cine va organiza lovitura de stat cu public. Americanii s-au ferit, au venit cu ni\u015fte s\u00e2rbi, cu ni\u015fte unguri la Timi\u015foara s\u0103 sparg\u0103 vitrine. \u015ei-au mai r\u0103mas ru\u015fii&#8221;, a declarat Cornel Dinu.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dinu a mai declarat c\u0103 autor al Comunicatului FSN, \u015fi al celor zece puncte ale programului de restructurare a societ\u0103\u0163ii rom\u00e2ne\u015fti, a fost juristul Ion Traian \u015etef\u0103nescu, prim-secretar \u00een jude\u0163ul Dolj, care l-ar fi dictat prin telefon, din arestul garnizoanei Craiova lui Mihai Montanu, pe acest tipar fiind efectuate modific\u0103ri minore de c\u0103tre Dumitru Mazilu.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dinu a evocat \u015fi un alt moment ce poate elucida, \u00een viziunea sa, evolu\u0163ia post-decembrist\u0103 a societ\u0103\u0163ii rom\u00e2ne\u015fti. Este vorba de discu\u0163ia din 11 ianuarie 1990, dintre ambasadorul Uniunii Sovietice, Evgheni Tiajelnikov \u015fi Ion Traian \u015etef\u0103nescu, \u00een care primul \u00eei m\u0103rturisea celui de al doilea c\u0103 misiunea sa \u00een Rom\u00e2nia s-a terminat, \u015fi c\u0103, \u00een virtutea rela\u0163iei dintre ei, \u015etef\u0103nescu sus\u0163in\u00e2ndu-\u015fi doctoratul \u00een URSS chiar cu Tiajelnikov, \u00eei recomanda \u015fi acestuia s\u0103 se retrag\u0103 din via\u0163a public\u0103.\r\nDinu vede \u00een aceast\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2mplare un indiciu privind inten\u0163iile sovietice de a elimina din zona public\u0103 intelectualitatea de orientare comunist\u0103, cea care ar fi asigurat o tranzi\u0163ie de catifea, dup\u0103 modelul fostelor t\u0103ri socialiste. Dinu spune c\u0103, premerg\u0103tor evenimentelor din decembrie &#8217;89, misiunea lui Tiajelnikov \u00een Rom\u00e2nia a constat \u00een \u00eendep\u0103rtarea acestui tip de intelectuali din cercul lui Ceau\u015fescu, \u015fi implicit din zona puterii, cu poten\u0163ial de a o prelua, &#8222;inteligen\u0163a patriotic\u0103 cu care se \u00eenconjurase Ceau\u015fescu a fost distrus\u0103 de Tiajelnikov&#8221;, \u015fi-a exprimat p\u0103rerea Cornel Dinu. .<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Referitor la strategiile implicate \u00een derularea evenimentelor din decembrie &#8217;89, Dinu a declarat c\u0103 dac\u0103 \u00een acea perioad\u0103 estima o prezen\u0163\u0103 a 1100 de agen\u0163i KGB \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, num\u0103rul acestora crescut la 10,000 \u00een 2002, \u015fi c\u0103 principalul scop a fost acela de acaparare al propriet\u0103\u0163ii asupra p\u0103r\u0163ii mai interesante a industriei rom\u00e2ne\u015fti.\r\n&#8222;Acum au pus m\u00e2na pe o mare parte din industria interesant\u0103 a economiei, ru\u015fii nu se duc de la gurile Dun\u0103rii, nu po\u0163i s\u0103 te ba\u0163i cu ursu&#8217;, findc\u0103 \u00ee\u0163i da cu laba de nu te vezi, acesta e testamentul lui Petru cel Mare.\r\nNu mai este valabil dictonul dezbin\u0103 \u015fi st\u0103p\u00e2ne\u015fte, este dezbin\u0103 \u015fi distruge, nu o s\u0103 sc\u0103p\u0103m niciodat\u0103 din zona asta de confluen\u0163\u0103 a trei imperii, Imperiul austriac a revenit \u00een istorie, dar sub capital rus&#8221;, a concluzionat Cornel Dinu.<\/h4>\r\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00centrebat de c\u0103tre cei prezen\u0163i \u00een emisiune de ce a f\u0103cut aceste dezv\u0103luiri, Dinu a replicat: &#8222;ei n-au voie s\u0103 vorbeasc\u0103, c\u0103 erau \u00een pulov\u0103r, eu am voie fiindc\u0103 eram \u00een sacou&#8221;.<\/h4>\r\n<h4><em>Articol publicat \u00een <a 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