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Not\u0103 privind convorbirea dintre general-locotenent <\/em> Ilie Ceau\u015fescu, adjunct al ministrului Ap\u0103r\u0103rii Na\u0163ionale  \u015fi contraamiralul Mihailov, ata\u015fatul militar \u00een Rom\u00e2nia.<\/em><\/h4>\n

\u00cent\u00e2lnirea are loc la Ministerul Ap\u0103r\u0103rii Na\u0163ionale. La discu\u0163ii particip\u0103: generalul-locotenent Ilie Ceau\u015fescu, viceamiralul \u015etefan Dinu (\u015feful DIA), colonelul Dumitru Mircea \u015fi locotenent-colonelul Gheorghe Lungu din partea rom\u00e2n\u0103, contraamiralul G.A. Mihailov, genarulul-maior G.N. Bociaev (loc\u0163iitorul comandantului-\u015fef al For\u0163elor Armate Unite ale Tratatului de la Var\u015fovia la Bucure\u015fti) \u015fi locotenent-colonelul Masiuk  (translator).<\/em><\/h4>\n

Ilie Ceau\u015fescu face cunoscut c\u0103 despre situa\u0163ia actual\u0103 din  Rom\u00e2nia au fost informate toate oficiile diplomatice din \u0163ar\u0103; ast\u0103zi  se va anun\u0163a un nou guvern; Uniunea Sovietic\u0103 s\u0103 dea dovad\u0103 de  mult\u0103 re\u0163inere; Rom\u00e2nia nutre\u015fte sentimente de prietenie fa\u0163\u0103 de Uniunea Sovietic\u0103 \u015fi de celelalte state socialiste; rom\u00e2nii au fost \u00eentotdeauna interna\u0163ionali\u015fti; cercurile imperialiste au organizat un complot interna\u0163ional, cu scopul de a distruge socialismul, de a abate Rom\u00e2nia de pe calea construirii unei vie\u0163i noi, de a o scoate din sistemul socialist \u015fi din Tratatul de la Var\u015fovia.<\/h4>\n

Gen.-lt. Ilie Ceau\u015fescu<\/strong>:<\/h3>\n

\u0162ara noastr\u0103, membr\u0103 a Tratatului de la Var\u015fovia, r\u0103m\u00e2ne fidel\u0103 a acestui Tratat \u015fi tuturor acordurilor interna\u0163ionale, pe care le va respecta \u00eentocmai.<\/h4>\n

Poporul rom\u00e2n a\u015fteapt\u0103 mult\u0103 \u00een\u0163elegere de la Uniunea Sovietic\u0103. Sunt \u00eencerc\u0103ri din partea cercurilor imperialiste din RFG, SUA, Fran\u0163a \u015fi alte state capitaliste, precum \u015fi din partea unor cercuri din Ungaria, de a destabiliza situa\u0163ia. Rom\u00e2nii au sprijinit Revolu\u0163ia Socialist\u0103 din Octombrie, au manifestat solidaritate cu Uniunea Sovietic\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd era singur\u0103. PCR a fost un prieten sincer al Uniunii Sovietice. Aceea\u015fi prietenie sincer\u0103 a fost manifestat\u0103 \u015fi dup\u0103 cel de-al Doilea R\u0103zboi  Mondial.<\/h4>\n

Rug\u0103m Partidul Comunist al Uniunii Sovietice, statul sovietic, poporul, Armata sovietic\u0103 s\u0103 dea dovad\u0103 de mult\u0103 \u00een\u0163elegere \u015fi s\u0103 ne sprijine \u00een aceste momente de confuzie; s\u0103 transmite\u0163i tovar\u0103sului ministru Iazov,  tovar\u0103\u015fului Lizicev, \u015feful Direc\u0163iei Principale Politice a  Armatei \u015fi flotei sovietice, rug\u0103mintea de a face uz de influen\u0163a pe care o au, \u00een virtutea bunelor \u00een\u0163elegeri pe care le-am avut. S\u0103 informeze bine, corect, pe tovar\u0103\u015ful Gorbaciov cu aceste probleme, s\u0103 se foloseasc\u0103 de influen\u0163a mare pe care o au ei \u015fi tovar\u0103\u015ful  Gorbaciov pentru ca elementele ostile socialismului s\u0103 nu atenteze la munca poporului rom\u00e2n. Elementele reac\u0163ionare s\u0103 nu profite de acest moment critic pentru a-\u015fi atinge scopurile de a destabiliza economia. A\u015ftept mult de la poporul sovietic \u015fi am convingerea c\u0103 vom g\u0103si \u00een\u0163elegere.<\/h4>\n

Mul\u0163umesc anticipat ministrului Ap\u0103r\u0103rii, general de armat\u0103 Izov, \u015fi generalului de armat\u0103 Lizicev \u015fi, prin ei, conducerii partidului \u015fi statului sovietic, pentru \u00een\u0163elegerea \u015fi sprijinul pe care \u00eel a\u015fteapt\u0103 poporul rom\u00e2n de la Uniunea Sovietic\u0103.<\/h4>\n

V\u0103 mul\u0163umesc \u015fi dumneavoastr\u0103 c\u0103 v-a\u0163i deplasat p\u00e2n\u0103 aici. Dac\u0103 se poate, s\u0103 comunica\u0163i aceste opinii conducerilor dumneavoastr\u0103.<\/h4>\n

Contraamiral Mihailov<\/strong>:<\/h4>\n

Suntem oarecum informa\u0163i despre situa\u0163ie. \u015etim din informa\u0163iile oficiale ce s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat la Timi\u015foara, c\u0103 s-a declarat starea de necesitate  \u00een \u0163ar\u0103.<\/h4>\n

Lt.-col. Masiuk:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

S-a comunicat \u015fi \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu ministrul Ap\u0103r\u0103rii Na\u0163ionale.<\/h4>\n

Contraamiral Mihailov<\/strong>:<\/h4>\n

Generalii Gu\u015f\u0103 \u015fi St\u0103nculescu sunt la Bucure\u015fti?<\/h4>\n

(\u00cen  acest timp, gen.-lt. Ilie Ceau\u015fescu iese din sal\u0103, chemat.)<\/em><\/h4>\n

Viceamiral \u015etefan Dinu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Vin spre Bucure\u015fti.<\/h4>\n

Gen.-mr. Bociaev:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Si \u00een fa\u0163a Ministerului Ap\u0103r\u0103rii Na\u0163ionale este mult\u0103 lume.<\/h4>\n

Contraamiral Mihailov:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

C\u00e2nd s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat cu ministrul Ap\u0103r\u0103rii Na\u0163ionale?<\/h4>\n

Viceamiral \u015etefan Dinu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Nu \u015ftim.<\/h4>\n

Contraamiral Mihailov<\/strong>:<\/h4>\n

Era acas\u0103?<\/h4>\n

Viceamiral \u015etefan Dinu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Se g\u0103sea \u00een cl\u0103direa CC al PCR. Nu \u015ftim c\u00e2nd s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat<\/h4>\n

Contraamiral Mihailov:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Agen\u0163iile occidentale vorbesc despre existen\u0163a a mii de jertfe.Ave\u0163i cifre aproximative privind mor\u0163ii \u015fi r\u0103ni\u0163ii?<\/h4>\n

Viceamiral \u015etefan Dinu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Nu lucrez \u00een acest domeniu, nu \u015ftiu care este cifra. S-a spus ca\u0103 sunt victime, crime, probabil sunt jertfe mai multe, dar nu \u015ftim c\u00e2te sunt. Probabil se vor clarifica. Fiecare poate s\u0103 spun\u0103 despre o manifesta\u0163ie c\u0103 a participat un num\u0103r mai mare sau mai mic de oameni. Eu nu am v\u0103zut acum, de pild\u0103, c\u00e2\u0163i oameni sunt \u00een fa\u0163\u0103 Ministerului Ap\u0103r\u0103rii Na\u0163ionale. C\u00e2\u0163i sunt?<\/h4>\n

Contraamiral Mihailov:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

20-30 de oameni, poate mai mul\u0163i.<\/h4>\n

Viceamiral \u015etefan Dinu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Mai sunt \u015fi mul\u0163i curio\u015fi, care se intereseaz\u0103 ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103.<\/h4>\n

Gen.-mr. Bociaev:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Pentru asigurarea st\u0103rii de necesitate va participa \u015fi Armata?<\/h4>\n

Viceamiral \u015etefan Dinu<\/strong>:<\/h4>\n

Armata st\u0103 \u00een caz\u0103rmi, \u00een alarm\u0103, potrivit legii.<\/h4>\n

Gen.-mr. Bociaev<\/strong>:<\/h4>\n

Probabil, pentru impresionarea demonstran\u0163ilor.<\/h4>\n

Viceamiral \u015etefan Dinu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

P\u00e2n\u0103 acum s-au luat m\u0103suri de ap\u0103rare a obiectivelor. (\u00een acest timp reintr\u0103 \u00een sal\u0103 gen.-lt. Ilie Ceau\u015fescu.) <\/em>Gen.-lt. Ilie Ceau\u015fescu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

\u0162\u0103rile socialiste au ac\u0163ionat disparat, sper\u0103m c\u0103 via\u0163a va merge \u00eenainte. Cred c\u0103 Uniunea Sovietic\u0103 nu va permite cercurilor socialiste s\u0103 \u00eentroneze modul de via\u0163\u0103 imperialist.<\/h4>\n

(Din nou, gen.-lt. Ilie Ceau\u015fescu iese, chemat.)<\/em><\/h4>\n

Viceamiral<\/span><\/strong> \u015etefan Dinu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Dup\u0103 prevederile st\u0103rii de necesitate, unit\u0103\u0163ile militare pot trece la ap\u0103rarea  obiectivelor de stat, dac\u0103 demonstra\u0163ia este violent\u0103. \u00cen Bucure\u015fti au fost c\u00e2teva situa\u0163ii de violen\u0163\u0103. Acum, unit\u0103\u0163ile militare se retrag \u00een caz\u0103rmile lor. Sigur, sunt \u015fi elemente r\u0103u-voitoare, care se dedau la  furt, spargeri – elemente degradate. Sunt asemenea elemente \u015fi in situ\u0163ii normale. R\u0103uf\u0103c\u0103tori \u015fi pe timpul cutremurului au fost. Deocamdat\u0103, \u00een Bucure\u015fti, manifesta\u0163ia este pa\u015fnic\u0103.<\/h4>\n

Contraamiral Mihailov:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Am vazut cum unit\u0103\u0163ile pleac\u0103 din centrul ora\u015fului.<\/h4>\n

Viceamiral \u015etefan Dinu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Merg mai \u00eencet, nu pot ie\u015fi repede. Nu exist\u0103 o amenin\u0163are la adresa Armatei \u015fi invers.<\/h4>\n

Gen mr. Bociaev:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Atitudinea popula\u0163iei fa\u0163\u0103 de militari este normal\u0103. Ma\u015finile se \u00eentorc \u00een caz\u0103rmi, militarii sunt saluta\u0163i. Dup\u0103 Constitu\u0163ie, cine poate forma un nou guvern?<\/h4>\n

Viceamiral \u015etefan Dinu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Marea Adunare Na\u0163ional\u0103, iar \u00eentre sesiuni – Consiliul de Stat.<\/h4>\n

(Reintr\u0103 \u00een sal\u0103 gen.-lt. Ilie Ceau\u015fescu.)<\/em><\/h4>\n

Contraamiral Mihailov:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Se intrevede o \u015fedin\u0163\u0103 extraordinar\u0103 a Consiliului de Stat, vreo  plenar\u0103 a CCal PCR?<\/h4>\n

Gen.-lt. Ilie Ceau\u015fescu:<\/strong><\/h4>\n

Vom afla. Pot fi schimb\u0103ri \u00een conducere. Vom urm\u0103ri situa\u0163ia.<\/h4>\n

(Primirea se \u00eencheie precipitat.)<\/em><\/h4>\n

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Cele dou\u0103 ie\u015firi din sal\u0103 ale lui Ilie Ceau\u015fescu se explic\u0103 prin chemarea sa la telefon; prima dat\u0103 a fost informat c\u0103 fratele s\u0103u, ,Nicolaie Ceau\u015fescu, a p\u0103r\u0103sit cl\u0103direa CC al PCR cu elicopterul, iar a doua oar\u0103 a fost sunat chiar de acesta, de la Snagov. Pr\u0103bu\u015firea abrupt\u0103 a regimului explic\u0103 \u015fi \u00eencheierea precipitat\u0103 a discu\u0163iei dintre Ceau\u015fescu \u015fi sovietici, precum \u015fi anularea \u00eent\u00e2lnirii pe care generalul o planificase la ora 13.00 cu reprezentan\u0163ii Ambasadei Republicii Populare Chineze.<\/h4>
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