{"id":3941,"date":"2021-04-19T08:30:06","date_gmt":"2021-04-19T08:30:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/desteptati.ro\/?p=3941"},"modified":"2022-01-31T08:46:54","modified_gmt":"2022-01-31T06:46:54","slug":"patriotul-petre-roman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/desteptati-va.ro\/index.php\/2021\/04\/19\/patriotul-petre-roman\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8222;Patriotul&#8221; &#8211; Petre Roman"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"post-content\"><div class='booster-block booster-read-block'>\n                <div class=\"twp-read-time\">\n                \t<i class=\"booster-icon twp-clock\"><\/i> <span>Read Time:<\/span>10 Minute, 6 Second                <\/div>\n\n            <\/div><h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Petre Roman a facut, miercuri seara, in timpul emisiunii \u201cNasul\u201d de la B1Tv, o dezvaluire extrem de interesanta. Practic, fostul premier al Romaniei de la inceputul anilor \u201990 a recunoscut ca a facut spionaj militar in perioada in care era un simplu doctorand in Franta.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dezvaluirea lui Roman vine dupa ce Cornel Dinu a insinuat ca acesta ca a facut parte din reteaua Caraman, care Mihai Caraman a fost singurul spion roman decorat de KGB. Petre Roman a povestit ca, in perioada in care se afla la doctorat in Franta, a avut ocazia sa vada planurile unui fel de baraj acvatic militar si, dorind binele tarii, a facut poze sau a copiat acele poze si planurile barajului. Pe care le-a trimis ulterior in tara. Roman a precizat a fost singura data cand a facut asa ceva in viata lui si ca gestul sau a fost determinat de patriotism.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Interesant este cum putea sa faca asa ceva un simplu doctorand, daca nu avea legaturi cu Securitatea. Practic, din \u201cpatriotism\u201d, Petre Roman a riscat sa fie acuzat de spionaj militar. La fel de interesant este unde a trimis aceste documente Petre Roman. Contactat de Agentia de Investigatii Media, fostul premier a refuzat sa dea explicatii despre acest episod. \u201cNu vreau sa vorbesc. Imi ajunge ce am spus pana acum\u201d, a declarat Petre Roman.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Agentia de Investigatii Media a stat de vorba cu personaje care au jucat un rol important in Revolutia din 1989 si care stiu, de asemenea, detalii despre activitatea lui Petre Roman. De asemenea, am stat de vorba si cu istoricul Marius Oprea, unul dintre cei mai buni cunoscatori ai perioadei de dinainte de 1989.<\/h4>\n<h4><strong>Sergiu Nicolaescu: \u201cCeva adevarat este\u201d<\/strong><\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Sergiu Nicolaescu a refuzat sa comenteze acuzatiile lui Cornel Dinu si dezvaluirea facuta de Petre Roman, dar a precizat ca \u201cceva adevarat este\u201d. \u201cEu ma abtin sa comentez. Cel putin deocamdata. Este normal sa iti pui semne de intrebare. Va spun un singur lucru: adevarul se afla pe undeva. Ceva adevarat este\u201d, ne-a declarat Sergiu Nicolaescu.<\/h4>\n<h3><strong>Gelu Voican: \u201cCaraman il simpatiza pe Roman\u201d<\/strong><\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Gelu Voican Voiculescu refuza sa creada ca Petre Roman ar fi putut avea legaturi cu Securitatea. \u201cEu refuz sa cred ca avea legaturi cu Securitatea. O fi facut-o din patriotism. Oricine putea sa faca asa ceva. Barajele nu sunt obiective militare. Nu trebuia sa aiba legaturi cu Securitatea pentru a face asa ceva. Securitatea nu se apropia de oameni ca Petre Roman. El era fiul lui Walter Roman\u201d, ne-a spus Gelu Voican Voiculescu. Acesta sustine ca Petre Roman era simpatizat de Caraman, dar ca nu a facut parte din reteaua care a adus cele mai mari prejudicii NATO. \u201cActivitatea lui Caraman s-a incheiat in 1969. Roman a plecat la doctorat in \u201971, deci cu doi ani mai tarziu. Ei nu s-au cunoscut decat in ianuarie 1990. Ce putea sa faca un doctorand cum era Roman in reteaua Caraman. Acolo erau folositi cetateni francezi, belgieni si asa mai departe. Nu romani. Astea sunt fabulatii. Niste speculatii. Nu stiu ce ratiuni in determina pe Cornel Dinu sa zica asa ceva. Poate ca este inca suparat ca nu l-a pus Roman ministru al Sportului. Dupa \u201989, Petre Roman nu a avut nici o legatura cu numirea lui Caraman la SIE. Eu m-am ocupat de asta. Am avut mai multe optiuni, dar, in final, a fost ales Caraman. L-am anuntat cand eram in birou la generalul Stanculescu si planuiam inlocuirea generalului Nicolae Militaru. Raporturile lui Caraman cu Iliescu nu au fost cele mai bune. Mihai Caraman si Petre Roman s-au inteles bine. Caraman chiar il simpatiza pe Roman\u201d, ne-a declarat Gelu Voican Voiculescu.<\/h4>\n<h3><strong>Virgil Magureanu: \u201cNu vreau sa mai vorbesc\u201d<\/strong><\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Fostul sef al Serviciului Roman de Informatii din perioada 1990-1997, Virgil Magureanu, nu mai doreste sa comenteze pe marginea subiectului privind posibilele legaturi ale lui Petre Roman cu reteaua Caraman. \u201cEu nu vreau sa ma mai bag in asa ceva. Nu cunosc nimic. Va spun sincer ca nu imi place subiectul. Despre asemenea lucruri eu nu mai vreau sa vorbesc\u201d, ne-a spus Virgil Magureanu.<\/h4>\n<h3><strong>Marius Oprea: \u201cRoman a ajuns pe alte filiere\u201d<\/strong><\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Fostul director al Institutului de Investigare a Crimelor Comunismului, istoricul Marius Oprea, crede ca ascensiunea lui Petre Roman se datoreaza nu retelei Caraman, ci altor filiere. De asemenea, acesta lasa sa se inteleaga ca premierul de la inceputul anilor \u201990 era un agent. \u201cPetre Roman a fost promovat prin alte filiere. El a fost la Toulouse, dar dupa desfiintarea retelei. Nu exista dovezi ca domnul Roman a facut parte din reteaua Caraman. Ce ridica cele mai mari semne de intrebare este faptul ca domnul Caraman a devenit seful SIE in 1990. El nu a fost recomandat pentru aceasta functie de catre Petre Roman, caci nu putea sa-l recomande un agent. L-a recomandat cel care coordona reteaua KGB din Romania, adica Ion Iliescu. A fost o decizie dictata de Moscova si pusa in practica de Iliescu. Este halucinant ca domnul Caraman, cel care a facut un aprig spionaj contra Vestului si unul de mare succes, a ajuns in fruntea SIE. El a furat cele mai mari secrete ale NATO, din cauza lui fiind nevoie de schimbarea amplasamentelor rachetelor. Numirea lui la SIE a fost un semnal dat de Romania impotriva NATO si care demonstra ca noi ne alaturam fostului bloc sovietic\u201d, sustine istoricul Marius Oprea.<\/h4>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Conform lui Cornel Dinu, Petre Roman (Neul\u00e4nder) a chemat armata sovietic\u0103 s\u0103 ocupe Rom\u00e2nia<\/strong><\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cen noaptea de mar\u0163i spre miercuri, fostul mare fotbalist Cornel Dinu a f\u0103cut dezv\u0103luiri de senza\u0163ie la un post tv unde se dezb\u0103teau probleme legate de evenimentele din decembrie 1989. Dac\u0103 tot ceea ce a afirmat Dinu este adev\u0103rat, atunci unele din \u201clegendele\u201d de atunci trebuie reconsiderate.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201cNu Ion Iliescu a apelat la ajutorul sovieticilor. Petre Roman este cel care a discutat \u00eentr-o rus\u0103 perfect\u0103, eu o \u00een\u0163eleg, cu consulul sovietic \u015fi a solicitat ajutor trupelor sovietice. Petre Roman era tare speriat de ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpla.\u201d<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201cEu am stat \u00een aceea\u015fi \u00eenc\u0103pere cu Ion Iliescu \u00een noaptea de 22 spre 23 decembrie, la Televiziunea Rom\u00e2n\u0103, de la 9 seara p\u00e2n\u0103 diminea\u0163a la 7.20\u201d, a men\u0163ionat Dinu, el explic\u00e2nd astfel de unde \u015ftie aceste lucruri. El a mai ar\u0103tat c\u0103 interlocutorul lui Petre Roman ar fi spus c\u0103 nu poate fi vorba dec\u00e2t de sprijin cu logistic\u0103 antiterorist\u0103.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201cDomnul consul a explicat clar: \u00abNu ne amestec\u0103m. Trupele sunt debarcate, \u00een dou\u0103 ore sunt \u00een centru, dar nu ne putem amesteca \u00een treburile interne\u00bb\u201d, a mai ar\u0103tat Dinu.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cen leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu afirma\u0163ia consulului sovietic privind faptul c\u0103 ar exista ceva trupe \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, Dinu a precizat c\u0103 din ce a aflat (men\u0163ion\u0103m c\u0103, \u00een decembrie 1989, Cornel Dinu a fost \u00eentr-o prima faz\u0103 un fel de gard\u0103 de corp a lui Ion Iliescu \u015fi ulterior, pentru o scurt\u0103 perioad\u0103, a de\u0163inut unele func\u0163ii \u00een stat), \u201c\u00eenc\u0103 din septembrie, trupele sovietice erau debarcate \u00een mun\u0163i\u201d.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cornel Dinu a mai declarat c\u0103 \u00een decembrie 1989 a fost vorba de \u201co lovitur\u0103 de stat cu public\u201d, \u00een care au fost implicate armata, Securitatea \u015fi mai multe servicii secrete str\u0103ine (\u201cPe 22 diminea\u0163a, la ora 8.30, generalul Iulian Vlad a dat ordin securi\u015ftilor care asigurau inelul de paz\u0103 al Comitetului Central s\u0103 ridice dispozitivul. Dac\u0103 nu se \u00eent\u00e2mpla asta, nimeni nu intra \u00een veci \u00een Comitetul Central. \u0102sta nu este un semn c\u0103 a fost ceva organizat, o lovitur\u0103 de stat\u201d \u2013 Cornel Dinu). Fostul dinamovist a mai men\u0163ionat c\u0103 omul-cheie al loviturii de stat a fost generalul Atanasie St\u0103nculescu.<\/h4>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Puloverul, semn de recunoa\u015ftere pentru puci\u015fti<\/strong><\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cornel Dinu a l\u0103sat s\u0103 \u00een\u0163eleag\u0103 c\u0103 Ion Iliescu, Petre Roman, Silviu Brucan \u015f.a. nu purtau \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103tor pulovere \u00een acele zile fierbin\u0163i. El nu a dat explica\u0163ii clare, dar a reie\u015fit din afirma\u0163iile lui c\u0103 puloverele constituiau un fel de semn de recunoa\u015ftere (probabil de c\u0103tre oganizatorii din punct de vedere tehnic ai loviturii de stat) a persoanelor care trebuiau s\u0103 preia puterea politic\u0103 \u00een stat. Dinu a mai afirmat c\u0103 Silviu Brucan era agent al mai multor servicii secrete str\u0103ine, c\u0103 Mircea Dinescu era agent GRU, iar Dumitru Mazilu, al serviciilor secrete sovietice.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Tot \u00een cadrul emisiunii de mar\u0163i noapte, istoricul Alex Stoenescu \u2013 el a confirmat \u00een mare parte informa\u0163iile lui Dinu \u2013 a afirmat dezinform\u0103rile \u015fi diversiunile care au ap\u0103rut pe postul na\u0163ional de televiziune \u015fi care ar fi contribuit la escaladarea focului \u00een seara zilei de 22 decembrie i-ar fi avut drept autori pe contraamiralul Cico Dumitrescu \u015fi un general pe nume Tudor.<\/h4>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>22.000 de spioni ru\u015fi sunt acum \u00een Rom\u00e2nia<\/strong><\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cornel Dinu a mai afirmat c\u0103, \u00een urma \u00een\u0163elegerilor dintre marile puteri, s-a decis ca dup\u0103 1989 Rom\u00e2nia s\u0103 r\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een sfera de influen\u0163\u0103 a Uniunii Sovietice. \u201c\u00cen decembrie 1989 \u00een Rom\u00e2nia erau 1.100 de spioni ru\u015fi. \u00cen 2002 erau 10.000, iar acum sunt 22.000\u201d, a reprezentat o alt\u0103 declara\u0163ie \u015focant\u0103 a lui Dinu. El a explicat c\u0103 spionii la care se refer\u0103 sunt de fapt ru\u015fii care de\u0163in sau controleaz\u0103 direct \u015fi indirect firme \u015fi companii \u00een Rom\u00e2nia. \u201cPractic, acum s-a pus \u00een aplicare planul lui Petru cel Mare de l\u0103rgire la maxim a sferelor de influen\u0163\u0103, iar capitalul rusesc este prezent peste tot\u201d, a conchis Dinu.<\/h4>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Tatal lui Petre Roman, Valter Roman (Erno Neulander), locotenent-colonel intr-o unitate NKVD<\/strong><\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dl. Petre Roman spune ca tatal sau a fost un patriot roman. Documentele vremii il prezinta insa ca pe un om care si-a dedicat viata bolsevismului international. Erno Neulander s-a nascut in Oradea si a fost recrutat in miscarea comunista de kominternistul Nicolae Golberger care l-a ajutat sa plece in URSS via Cehoslovacia. Potrivit documentelor din arhivele sovietice, Neulander a devenit locotenent-colonel intr-o unitate NKVD si a fost trimis in Spania sub numele Walter Roman. Acolo a detinut functia de ofiter CI al batalionului de artilerie \u201cAna Pauker,\u201d si a avut ca acoperire pozitia de \u201ccomisar politic.\u201d In Spania, Walter Roman s-a casatorit cu Angelina, nepoata fostei lidere a PC Spaniol Dolores Ibarruri (\u201cLa Passionaria\u201d), de care a divortat apoi la cererea Kominternului. Angelina a fost deportata la Taskent.<\/h4>\n<h3><strong>Decorat cu Steaua Rosie<\/strong><\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dupa infrangerea Republicii Spaniole, Walter Roman s-a reintors in URSS. Acolo a condus, pentru o perioada, sectia romana a postului de radio Moscova, unde a lucrat impreuna cu Ana Pauker, Leonte Rautu si Iosif Chisinevschi. Ana Pauker s-a reintors in Romania imbracata in uniforma sovietica, Walter Roman s-a reintors pe un tanc sovietic, ca sef de stat major al unei brigazi de voluntari (Horea, Closca si Crisan). In 1945 a fost decorat de Moscova cu \u201cSteaua Rosie\u201d asa cum rezulta dintr-un alt document sovietic:<\/h4>\n<h4>NKID URSS, Sectia Tarilor Balcanice<\/h4>\n<h4>Noiembrie 1945, Nr. 791\/bs<\/h4>\n<h4>Ambasadorului URSS in Romania,<\/h4>\n<h4>tov. S.I. Kavtaradze<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Va trimitem imputernicirea Prezidiului Sovietului Suprem al URSS pentru inmanarea decoratiei si ordinului \u201cSteaua rosie\u201d \u2013 nr. 1651765 cu diploma insotitoare \u2013 nr. 283631 privind decorarea lucratorului de la radiodifuziunea speciala, Walter Roman, prin Decretul Prezidiului Sovietului Suprem al URSS din 27 iunie 1945.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">La inmanarea decoratiei este necesar sa se intocmeasca un protocol si sa se transmita prin NKID la Sectia pentru decoratii a Prezidiului Sovietului Suprem al URSS.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Loctiitorul Sectiei tarilor balcanice,<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">A. Lavniscev<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201cDupa noi vom veni tot noi\u201d<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">In 1946, Walter Roman a fost numit sef al Marelui Stat Major al Armatei Romane si a primit sarcina sa o transforme intr-o filiala a Armatei Rosii. Apoi a devenit ministrul Postelor si Telecomunicatiilor si membru al CC al PCR. Ulterior el a fost marginalizat, impreuna cu ceilalti NKVD din conducerea Romaniei, devenind director al Editurii Politice.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Walter Roman in \u201cSecolul XX: Secolul Marilor Revolutii\u201d, Bucuresti, 1970: \u201cCine va veni dupa noi?\u201d, intreaba profetic evreul comunist, referindu-se la comunistii care conduceau URSS si tarile din Europa de Est. \u201cDupa noi vom veni tot noi,\u201d raspunde autorul. \u201cNoi nu scriem istoria. Noi o cream.\u201d Cele doua fraze erau lozinci afisate in birourile consilierilor sovietici ai Securitatii.<\/h4>\n<h4><em>Articol publicat \u00een <a href=\"http:\/\/bataiosu.wordpress.com\/2010\/03\/12\/petre-roman-neulander-a-recunoscut-ca-a-fost-spion-pentru-kgb-walter-roman-erno-neulander-locotenent-colonel-nkvd-dupa-noi-vom-veni-tot-noi\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">http:\/\/bataiosu.wordpress.com\/<\/a> de&nbsp;<strong>Marian B\u0103t\u0103iosu<\/strong> \u00een data de 12-03-2010\n<\/em><\/h4>        <div class=\"booster-block booster-reactions-block\">\n            <div class=\"twp-reactions-icons\">\n                \n                <div class=\"twp-reacts-wrap\">\n                    <a react-data=\"be-react-1\" post-id=\"3941\" class=\"be-face-icons un-reacted\" href=\"javascript:void(0)\">\n                        <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/desteptati-va.ro\/wp-content\/plugins\/booster-extension\/\/assets\/icon\/happy.svg\" alt=\"Happy\">\n         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de la B1Tv, o dezvaluire extrem de interesanta. 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Practic, fostul premier al Romaniei de la inceputul anilor \u201990 a recunoscut ca a facut spionaj militar in perioada in care era un simplu doctorand in Franta. 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